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Fumupu
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 11:41 pm    Post subject: standart of the heroes? Reply with quote

i used board search but didnt find any topic to this.

So is this thing of any use?
I didnt heard so, but if not a lvl requirement wouldn?t make any sense.
So you can tell me what it does?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 4:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are alot of myths about the standarts.. But actualy its just a waste of 1 space in your inv. As much as I know Laughing
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Epszi
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Standard of Heroes (SoH) is apparently nothing but a (useless) reward for defeating the Three, in their ?ber forms.

Lots of tests, one more silly than the next, have been performed, leaving just as many rumours in their wake. Most well-known to the public is the (less silly) claim that the SoH prevents you from death xp penalty, either in part or completely, in nm and hell difficulties. As far as I can tell from testing, it simply isn't true.

As for the lvl req (90) on the SoH, it is indeed odd, but presumably it was originally an estimate of the lvl you would need to successfully defeat the ?bers - setting a standard of lvl 90, so to speak.

If anyone can verify the SoH does have some property besides wasting a square of inventory space, then let us know. At this stage, I seriously doubt so ...

//Eps

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Epszi wrote:

As for the lvl req (90) on the SoH, it is indeed odd, but presumably it was originally an estimate of the lvl you would need to successfully defeat the ?bers - setting a standard of lvl 90, so to speak.


Rofl.. My Pala made ubers since he s lvl 75 Laughing

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Epszi
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JeffersonBay wrote:
Rofl.. My Pala made ubers since he s lvl 75 Laughing

Which is, I suppose, based on numerous hours of trial and error before the (smiter) build turned out to work. I said 'originally' Wink

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Falconius
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I heard that you have a chance to get better items by wearing it.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It in fact is a very special item, you can drop it on the floor and it won't break. Other then that it's useless.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well considering all those Shamans carry it all the time I bet it has to have some special purpose. Have you ever tried reviving Fallens with it?
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Fumupu
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ive read a test that it wont give you more mf!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have to drop it on the body of the wanderer after you killed him and never before you chased a chicken out of town in act 1.
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Skavendan
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 1:43 pm    Post subject: Re: standart of the heroes? Reply with quote

Fumupu wrote:
i used board search but didnt find any topic to this.

So is this thing of any use?
I didnt heard so, but if not a lvl requirement wouldn?t make any sense.
So you can tell me what it does?


SoH = makes you ask stupid questions and waists time, it's unlikely to have a perpose till next the next patch
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Epszi
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 12:42 am    Post subject: Re: standart of the heroes? Reply with quote

Skavendan wrote:
SoH = makes you ask stupid questions and waists time, it's unlikely to have a perpose till next the next patch

If the SoH was ever meant to have some purpose, it's quite unlikely Blizzard would not activate it in the same patch (1.11) when it was first introduced. It's rather senseless to have an item that does nothing until a new patch is launched - which would be more than 2 years later, in this case.

I doubt Blizzard will supply more d2 patches unless someone provides them with an unusually good reason to do so. At this stage, the SoH doesn't appear to be one such - particularly not if it was indeed always meant to be nothing but a sole trophy.

Noting the previous ladder season lasted for roughly 2 years, this should leave Blizzard with plenty of time to work on and thus launch a new patch. But apparently, they just reset the ladder.

//Eps

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I recall correctly worts leg spawned way before cows were ever added to the game.
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Magic
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hahahahaha


I know what to do with those SoH's!!! Thats why i buy and collect as many as i can get!!! When the new patch releases im rich and godly!!!


Hahahahaha Twisted Evil Laughing



But for real... There are some peops who collect them... Since blizz likes to surprise their fans from time to time (nearly no one ever believed that there will be a ladder reset again before the last one....) ... Maybe their days will come Wink

Theres one important thing i learned during my d2 carreer.... Collect every special / perfect item you find! Because even if its crap atm, a time will come where someone really needs it!

Imagine theres another patch tomorrow and the SoH gets usefull... To find another unique charm or activate a special quest or smth likt that....
Just some hours after patch release you can sell full SoH accs for shitloads of other forums tradeables or hrs Razz

Im still 2 lazy to collect them... -.- (and when they ever get usefull there will be someone who dupes them Rolling Eyes )

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have 3 accounts full of them and e-mailed blizz what to do with it.
They told me that next time when i visit their crap blizzard shop i get
a goody bag.

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Epszi
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Magic wrote:
But for real... There are some peops who collect them... Since blizz likes to surprise their fans from time to time (nearly no one ever believed that there will be a ladder reset again before the last one....) ... Maybe their days will come

Could be. Otherwise, they've got an almost infinite number of reasons for not wasting their time again. In other words, they'll win either way.

b-clone wrote:
I have 3 accounts full of them and e-mailed blizz what to do with it.
They told me that next time when i visit their crap blizzard shop i get
a goody bag.

LOL - that's the spirit, B Laughing

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Me and my m8 made key runs to get keys... I kept about 8 SOHs on my inventory and my m8 havent SOHs on his inventory... We made about 50 runs each and I found more than he and faster... We have do this couple of times and I got always way more than he... Maybe this could be SOHs thing?
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Fumupu
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmm mutu sounds interestings.

I cant believe really that this is the use, one should try this often and in many many runs.

If you see a real difference that should be the use of the SoH
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Skavendan
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mutu wrote:
Me and my m8 made key runs to get keys... I kept about 8 SOHs on my inventory and my m8 havent SOHs on his inventory... We made about 50 runs each and I found more than he and faster... We have do this couple of times and I got always way more than he... Maybe this could be SOHs thing?


i'll try it out on hardcore ladder i can do these runs quick and easy and i can get stardards easy too
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm going to test this right now.

I have 3 Rows of SoH's (12), and am going to do 10 runs WITH them, and then 10 runs WITHOUT them! And prove this once and for all =D

I am only going to do : Summoner + Nihlithak

With 12 SoH's
Run 1
Summoner - Nothing
Nihlithak - Nothing

Run 2
Summoner - Nothing
Nihlithak - Nothing

Run 3
Summoner - Nothing
Nihlithak - Nothing

Run 4
Summoner - Nothing
Nihlithak - Nothing

Run 5
Summoner - Nothing
Nihlithak - Nothing

Run 6
Summoner - Nothing
Nihlithak - Nothing Except a Magic Royal Shield (35000 Gold) Very Happy

Run 7
Summoner - Nothing
Nihlithak - Nothing

Run 8
Summoner - Nothing
Nihlithak - Nothing

Run 9
Summoner - Key of Hate!
Nihlithak - Fire Immune Confused

Run 10
Summoner - Nothing
Nihlithak - Fire Immune AGAIN Confused

10 Runs With SoH's:
1 Key of Hate
0 Keys of Destruction


Without 12 SoH's
Run 1
Summoner - Nothing
Nihlithak - Nothing

Run 2
Summoner - Nothing
Nihlithak - Fire Immune Confused

Run 3
Summoner - Nothing
Nihlithak - Nothing

Run 4
Summoner - Nothing
Nihlithak - Nothing

Run 5
Summoner - Nothing
Nihlithak - Nothing

Run 6
Summoner - Nothing
Nihlithak - Nothing

Run 7
Summoner - Nothing
Nihlithak - Nothing

Run 8
Summoner - Nothing
Nihlithak - Fire Immune Confused

Run 9
Summoner - Nothing
Nihlithak - Nothing

Run 10
Summoner - Nothing
Nihlithak - Nothing

10 Runs Without SoH's:
0 Key of Hate
0 Keys of Destruction


Well I think its unanimous, I really don't think SoH's have ANY affect on Key Finding.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 1:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

With the exception of taking up more space Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well 10 runs is hardly enough to give you decent statistical data. You would have to make like 1000 runs with and without. And I think it would be a wasted time anyway (unless you really need those keys). SoHs were tested for nearly everything and I bet that "increasing key drop chance" was one of them.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well.. was tested now:P It's more of..a ''pride'' to have one.. (tho most players don't give a s*it about them) So nn testing anymore.. doesn't do a damn thing..^^ just waste of inv space and time..

//Xem.
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Epszi
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Besides, there's no point in stocking more than at most one SoH on a char. It makes no sense to suppose more SoHs will have a different impact from a single one.

But Danny is absolutely right. The droprate for keys is simply too low for 10-20 runs to be considered sufficient statistical evidence.

//Eps

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is no use of SoH, mike plz close topic - lol
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you can use them later. As Epzsi said in the begining, that the wirts leg coudnt be used before the patch.
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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mb there will be a use in 1.13 dno we will see :=)
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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

N4p_N3crOn wrote:
mb there will be a use in 1.13 dno we will see :=)


vouch, but therefore ppl will have to ask blizzard about giving the SoH a use and i donīt think anyone proposed anything useful, neither i expect blizzard to do a "new" cow lvl just for the SoH :/

but what can we do but hope? =)

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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2009 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A secret bunny level would be cool Smile
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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2009 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

one day we will see - or not

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